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Oakeshott and Eliot on the Relation of Poetry, Philosophy, and Practice

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This essay explores the views of T.S. ELiot and Michael Oakeshott on the nature of poetic experience and its relation to practical life and philosophy. My argument, briefly, is that Oakeshott and Eliot both attack the Romantic view that poetry is the expression of the poet's emotion; they reject both the expressive and emotional aspects of this view. They also see poetry as a unique, autonomous activity, though in somewhat different senses. Oakeshott draws a sharper distinction between poetry and practice than Eliot, who sees the poet embedded in a culture and calls in his later criticism for poetry to be considered in light of moral and religious standards. Still, he does not directly apply moral judgments to literature, or ask what Oakeshott calls 'practical questions' of art works. Oakeshott, conversely, suggests by the works he uses as illustrative, and by certain remarks on language that poetry cannot be radically divorced from practice. There is, however, a serious disagreement between Eliot and Oakeshott on the relation of poetry to practice, captured in Oakeshott's remark that Dante's theology is distinguishable from the properly poetic part of his work. Finally, I suggest that Oakeshott's famous "retraction of a foolish sentence" in Experience and its Modes might signal not only his distinguishing poetry from practice, but his exploring the possibility of its being a counterpart to philosophy as a release from practice, and as one of two highest forms of experience. In Eliot's case, his decision not to defend his thesis on Bradley and his subsequent career evince his choice of poetry over philosophy, not merely because he recognized his poetic gifts, but because academic philosophy as he pursued it in his dissertation was not satisfying. However, while Oakeshott may be said to be exploring the unique value of poetry and Eliot to have decided in favor of it, Eliot is ready to admit what he calls a poet's 'philosophy'-his doctrine, or beliefs-a point best considered in relation to Oakeshott's exclusion of poetry from practice.

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Abel, Corey. "Oakeshott and Eliot on the Relation of Poetry, Philosophy, and Practice" Paper presented at the annual meeting of the American Political Science Association, Boston Marriott Copley Place, Sheraton Boston & Hynes Convention Center, Boston, Massachusetts, Aug 28, 2002 <Not Available>. 2009-05-26 <http://www.allacademic.com/meta/p66336_index.html>

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Abel, C. , 2002-08-28 "Oakeshott and Eliot on the Relation of Poetry, Philosophy, and Practice" Paper presented at the annual meeting of the American Political Science Association, Boston Marriott Copley Place, Sheraton Boston & Hynes Convention Center, Boston, Massachusetts Online <.PDF>. 2009-05-26 from http://www.allacademic.com/meta/p66336_index.html

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Abstract: This essay explores the views of T.S. ELiot and Michael Oakeshott on the nature of poetic experience and its relation to practical life and philosophy. My argument, briefly, is that Oakeshott and Eliot both attack the Romantic view that poetry is the expression of the poet's emotion; they reject both the expressive and emotional aspects of this view. They also see poetry as a unique, autonomous activity, though in somewhat different senses. Oakeshott draws a sharper distinction between poetry and practice than Eliot, who sees the poet embedded in a culture and calls in his later criticism for poetry to be considered in light of moral and religious standards. Still, he does not directly apply moral judgments to literature, or ask what Oakeshott calls 'practical questions' of art works. Oakeshott, conversely, suggests by the works he uses as illustrative, and by certain remarks on language that poetry cannot be radically divorced from practice. There is, however, a serious disagreement between Eliot and Oakeshott on the relation of poetry to practice, captured in Oakeshott's remark that Dante's theology is distinguishable from the properly poetic part of his work. Finally, I suggest that Oakeshott's famous "retraction of a foolish sentence" in Experience and its Modes might signal not only his distinguishing poetry from practice, but his exploring the possibility of its being a counterpart to philosophy as a release from practice, and as one of two highest forms of experience. In Eliot's case, his decision not to defend his thesis on Bradley and his subsequent career evince his choice of poetry over philosophy, not merely because he recognized his poetic gifts, but because academic philosophy as he pursued it in his dissertation was not satisfying. However, while Oakeshott may be said to be exploring the unique value of poetry and Eliot to have decided in favor of it, Eliot is ready to admit what he calls a poet's 'philosophy'-his doctrine, or beliefs-a point best considered in relation to Oakeshott's exclusion of poetry from practice.

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Oakeshott and Eliot on the Relation of Poetry Philosophy and Practice Corey Abel University of Denver University of Denver Core Curriculum Arts and Humanities 2000 Asbury Ave. SH 273 303­871­3627 303­871­4436 (fax) cabel@du.edu Prepared for Presentation at the Annual Meeting of the American Political Science Association August 28­September 1 2002 Boston MA C.S. Abel 2 2 T.S. Eliot's dissertation on F.H. Bradley along with Oakeshott's remark that ``the works from which I am conscious of having learnt the most
Politics " The New Left Review 18 (January­February 1963): 60­72. Ferguson Margaret; Salter Mary Jo; and Stallworthy John; eds. The Norton Anthology of Poetry Fourth Edition. New York: W.W. Norton & CO. 1996. (Norton) Gordon Lyndall. T.S. Eliot: Am Imperfect Life. New York: W.W. Norton 2000. Grant Robert Thinkers of Our Time: Oakeshott London: The Claridge Press 1990. Mallinson Jane T.S. Eliot's Interpretation of F.H. Bradley Kluwer Academic Publishers 2002 (forthcoming). Shusterman Richard ``Eliot as Philosopher '' The Cambridge


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